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Coping With a Disinterested Ex Mate

Is Their "Indifference" What
You Think It Is? -
p. 2 of 2

By Peter K. Gerlach, MSW
Member NSRC Experts Council

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1) Your Ex Mate Ignores or Rejects You - continued       

        Another key option you both have is to compassionately...

Assess for Blocked Grief       

        Your separation and divorce process, and what led to it, has caused all your adults and kids major losses – broken emotional / spiritual bonds. Divorce is usually a sign that one or both mates are significantly ruled by a false self, and they don't know that. That means it’s likely that one or both of you don’t feel safe to move through the mental, emotional, and/or spiritual levels of healthy grief.

        In my experience, unseen blocked grief is often one of several reasons family members avoid or reject each other. This is usually a result of false-self wounds + unawareness of the requisites for healthy mourning + lack of supports and inner and social permissions to grieve. To see if frozen mourning is part of your ex's "disinterest," adapt the steps in Project 5 to suit your situation.

        The good news: if s/he's blocked in grieving, that's not your problem. The bad news: as long as s/he's stuck, you and your kids must adapt to the consequences, while working to avoid blaming your ex. We wounded adults don’t choose to disable our true Selves or get stuck in our grief! Each of these can be greatly improved, once admitted.

        Grief-assessment Options...

        See how much you know about healthy grieving by adopting the mind of a student, and taking this quiz. If you have knowledge gaps, become well versed in healthy grieving. Then honestly assess yourself for blocked grief. If you are stuck, evolve a plan to resume your loss-acceptance process, and act on it.

        After compassionately assessing your ex for false-self wounds, assess her or him for blocked grief. Depending on your conclusions, use the Serenity Prayer to discern what you can affect and what you can’t.

        Identify your family’s grief policies (a) when you were married and (b) now. If necessary, amend your policy to create a "pro-grief" home and family. Teach your kids what you're learning.

        Invite your former partner to do some or all of these options for all your sakes, not to manipulate, expose, or control, but to heal. Consider bringing grief up in conversations with your ex and with other people s/he listens to.

        Disclose to your ex and/or key relatives any difficulty you are having with grieving divorce-related or other losses, without shame or guilt. Talking about losses and the healing grief process raises everyone’s awareness!

        These are representative choices. You have others!

        We've been exploring your options if your former lover seems to ignore or reject you. A more complex situation occurs if...

2) Your Ex Mate “Ignores” Your Child/ren

        Are you a single or re/married bioparent whose kids rarely see or hear from their other parent? If so, this section hilights options you have toward changing this, or accepting and making the best of it.

What’s the Primary Problem?

        Start by getting clear on (a) what you want to change, (b) what’s in the way, and (c) what you can affect or control. If your goal is to have your ex mate want more contact with your kids, then your challenge is to change your attitudes and behavior in a way that raises your ex’s motivation, and/or reduces her or his anxiety.

        Try standing in your ex’s shoes. I suspect one or more of these factors may be causing his or her parental “disinterest”:

        S/He feels too much pain when she interacts with your kids – e.g. a bitter brew of guilt + sadness + frustration + incompetence + regret. Often this is caused by blocked grief (above), which is a symptom of unawareness and false-self wounds. If you have a new partner, a variation of this is that contact with your kids forces your ex to face the agonizing reality that a stranger s/he doesn't know and may not trust is co-raising (influencing) your kids. And/or…

        Your ex is weary of combat, and feels hopeless that you and s/he can agree on visitation, money, or custody details as co-parenting partners, vs. adversaries. If so, the solution is for you two to patiently heal any wounds, and improve your attitudes and communication skills. And/or…

        Your ex is in a loyalty conflict with a new partner who discourages your ex from seeing or talking to your kids (or you). In my experience, the primary problems in this case are false-self wounds + unawareness + discomfort with stepfamily identity and its implications + ineffective communication skills in both or all you co-parents. Another root problem may be…

        Your ex mate is so wounded s/he can’t genuinely bond attach emotionally and spiritually. If so, pretending to want contact with your kids (a double message) will probably evoke confusion, distrust, and frustration. Another possibility is that…

        Your child/ren’s behavior causes too much pain. If they dislike, distrust, fear, blame, disrespect, or don’t care about your ex, then spending time with them is hardly fun and satisfying. A variation of this is your ex may not know how to interact comfortably with your child/ren because of inadequate or toxic parenting in her or his early years.

        A special barrier occurs when a judge rules legally that your ex’s visitations with your kids must be supervised by another adult in a public place, to protect your child/ren. Merited or not, this is shaming and restrictive, and usually inhibits enjoyable, spontaneous visitations for everyone. Professional counseling for all of you (not just your ex) is probably required to sort out your mix of causes and impacts, and promote gradual healings. For perspective, see the counseling Q&A here and this article on lose-lose legal fights between ex mates.

        A surface problem that may be contributing to your ex's "disinterest" is guilt, anxiety, or frustration over delinquent or current child-support conflicts. If so, you can reduce your half of the primary causes of this problem. See this article for perspective and action-options.

        A final possibility is your ex’s “disinterest” in your child/ren is due to a mix of uncomfortable relationship stressors with you, your kids, and/or significant relatives. Part of the solution is to admit that, sort out multiple stressors, and work patiently on reducing a few at a time. Option: work patiently at reducing your half of these co-parental barriers for your and the kids' sakes. Your efforts over time may (vs. will) make it safer for your ex to want more contact with your kids.

        Pause and reflect. We’ve just reviewed eight possible primary causes of your ex mate’s “indifference” to contact with your kids. Were you aware of these before you began reading? Do you see any new possibilities?

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        Your choices boil down to: (a) identify what you really need here, (b) accept what you cannot change, and (c) work patiently to change the things you can. I propose that you cannot change the past, your mate’s wounds, local and natural laws, your family-members’ primary needs, and the weather. You can affect many other things, including…

How you view your ex mate’s “indifference” – i.e. how you define “the problem;”

Your knowledge, attitudes, and behaviors; and…

Your kids’, relatives’, and supporters’ awareness, knowledge, and options.

        Explore your options for reducing the co-parenting barriers above with the Project-10 guidebook Build a Co-parenting Team after Divorce or Re/marriage. This book is augmented by many Q&A and Solutions articles. Let's add some action options to the preparation-options on the prior page:

        Acknowledge (vs. deny or minimize) that you feel your ex is ignoring or rejecting your child/ren.

        Adjust your expectations. If you’ve felt powerless to increase your ex mate’s co-parenting involvement, try the attitude “Maybe I can find a way.” Avoid black/white thinking, and widen your goal from changing your ex mate’s behavior to patiently building an effective co-parenting team  over time.

        Decide how important this problem is to you, in the context of your other short and long-term goals  and priorities. Then identify which of the primary problems above are true in your situation without blame or guilt. Focus patiently on improving them one or a few at a time.

       Read and apply the baseline articles and options at the top of this article. If you’re reluctant or ambivalent, assume that a protective false self  controls you. Freeing your true Self  to lead and harmonize your other subselves  becomes your highest-payback current goal.

        Assess the status of each of your co-parent team-building barriers  (non/significant now). Confront the probability that “I am probably contributing to my ex mate’s attitudes and behaviors, and assess your attitudes and progress with your half of each applicable barrier.

        More action-options...

        If you have a new partner, invite her or him to join you in your long-range teambuilding effort and take appropriate steps above. If s/he is ambivalent, cynical or pessimistic, you have additional team-building barriers.

        Communications between subselves and people are circular. Experiment with this communication-sequence mapping technique to see how you’ve generally reacted to your ex's "indifference." Use your findings to try new behaviors, and watch for better outcomes. Watch for behaviors like these:

I silently or vocally criticize and blame my ex, and keep telling him or her what s/he must do. This is self-defeating because it inexorably sends inflammatory R(espect)-messages: You’re wrong and bad, and I’m 1-up.” If your Self is leading,  s/he can change this to respectful assertion, for better results.

I pity my child/ren, and overindulge them to offset their hurt. This may stress you all indirectly by fostering loyalty conflicts and relationship triangles - specially if you have a new partner. Alternatives: in age-appropriate terms, help your kids understand any of the above factors that you think are relevant, and demonstrate empathy for them and your ex. Key: s/he's (probably) not disinterested in them (unless conception was unwelcome), s/he's wounded, scared, and guilty, and hasn't learned how to master those yet. And/or...

I criticize and scorn my ex to my friends, family, and perhaps the kids, and I admit or deny this. This behavior amplifies your problem by polarizing you all and shaming and angering your ex. Option: learn why you do this (to avoid looking at your part of the action?), and replace put-downs with silence or compassion, and self-aware "I" messages.

I reassure our kids that their other parent’s disinterest is not their fault. This is helpful if you don’t also blame their parent (or yourself), specially if your kids are developing a shame-based personality.

        More ways you may have been reacting to your ex's "indifference" or "uninvolvement" with the kids:

I make excuses for my ex's actions to our kids. This may be an unintended form of enabling, and may hinder your child/ren from understanding what’s real. Alternatives are to (a) affirm your kids’ feelings and needs, (b) be honest about your own, and (c) when you feel they're ready, educate your kids about the primary problems in your multi-home family.

I ignore, defer, or minimize this problem because it's so painful and confusing. This is understandable, and may change as you see and try more options. It also may be a symptom of significant false-self dominance (reality distortion).

I over-analyze my ex's choices and actions, and avoid assertions or confrontations. This suggests that fearful and/or guilty subselves control you, and reduces the odds that your kids will get what they need from you caregivers.

I obsess about the terrible wounds this (parental disinterest) is causing our kids. This may indicate your Catastrophizer subself is dominating your other subselves (personality) and distrusts your true Self. Work at Project 1!

I obsess about how I felt when my parent/s ignored or abandoned me. If this is part of a personal healing (recovery) program, stick to it! If it’s not, it’s a vivid heads-up that you need such healing. Your protective false self may be avoiding the discomfort of that by over-focusing on your kids and/or ex mate.

I often invite our kid/s to talk about how they feel, and what they really need (vs. surface needs) from their other parent. I also (a) teach and encourage our child/ren to assert their feelings and needs clearly and directly to their other parent, vs. me acting as spokesperson and "switchboard." If they're scared to do this, I model and teach the kids (b) their human rights, (c) empathic listening, and (d) respectful assertion skills.

_  (Add any other response to your ex's behavior that you're aware of)...       

        See if there's a "surrogate parent" (mentor) available who needs to give the nurturance that your child/ren's other parent can’t provide now. If there's a local chapter of Big Brothers / Big Sisters, they can be a wonderful resource!

        If you’re a stepparent and the “disinterested” parent is your partner’s ex; adapt these options to fill your needs, and use them as a framework for supporting your mate and stepkids. The same applies if you’re a caring relative or professional supporter.

        Periodically widen your vision and affirm your efforts and progress at all your primary (vs. surface) Project-10 team-building barriers, including this one. A final powerful option is to periodically redefine what you cannot change, and release those things to your Higher Power.


3) Your Partner's Ex Ignores Your Stepkids

            There are several key factors that shape how serious a problem this is to you, your marriage, and building a co-parenting team, over time. These factors include...

  • how bonded you and your stepkids are,

  • how your mate's response affects your respect for him or her,

  • what your primary needs are in this situation,

  • what other stressors affect you all, and

  • how motivated and effective you adults are at reducing them.

        Because of these many variations, I'm limited to some key general suggestions here in addition to those above...

        Decide if your true Self is in charge of your inner family. If not, focus on making that happen before doing anything else.

        Review the reference articles and preparation options on page 1, and follow those you feel are relevant. Pay special attention to possible loyalty conflicts and relationship triangles,  and focus on surface vs. underlying primary problems (need conflicts).

        Use your awareness, clear-thinking, and dig-down skills to discern what you really need in this situation - e.g. "I need to assert my needs to my ex, feel heard, and do some effective joint problem solving." If you need something to change, clarify if it's in you, your mate, your mate's ex, or some combination. Get clear on whose needs you're focused on filling now.

        Ask yourself "What's in the way of this change?"; and "If this change doesn't happen, what is that likely to mean to our marriage and our other family relationships?"

        Review these typical personal rights and apply them to each of your co-parents. Then review this problem-solving overview and example, and these communication blocks and tips.

        Review your short and long-term personal priorities, and decide how important it is to focus energy now on changing something about this "ex-mate disinterest" problem.

        If this feels like "our problem," ask your mate what s/he needs in this situation, and then follow relevant options here together. If this feels like "my problem," I suspect you have a deeper (re/marital) problem. Review these Project-8 and re/marital articles, and notice where your inner voices (subselves) direct you...

        We've covered a lot of ideas and options here! Pause, move your body around, breathe from your belly, and reflect. Why did you read this article? Did you get what you needed? If you didn't - what do you need now?

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        A stressor troubling many U.S. divorcing families and stepfamilies is one parent seeming to ignore or reject their ex mate and/or non-custodial kids. The media tends to highlight "deadbeat dads," and focus on dollars and legal actions, vs. resolving what causes the "disinterest." There's also a silent subculture of divorced mothers who (a) can't bond with their child/ren because of unhealed early-childhood trauma, and/or (b) are emotionally overwhelmed by local circumstances, and/or (c) are legally deprived of child custody for various reasons. All variations of this "indifferent parent" dynamic reduce the co-parenting teamwork that your minor kids depend on you adults for.

        This overview article proposes that such parental “indifference” or “uninvolvement” is a surface symptom of a mix of underlying primary problems. The article summarizes suggestions on understanding and resolving the true causes of an ex mate's “ignoring” or “rejecting” their conception partner and/or noncustodial biochild/ren. The article closes with general options for stepparents troubled by their partner's former mate "ignoring" their minor child/ren.

        A core premise here is that the ex mate's attitudes and behaviors are only half of the (surface) problem. The other half belongs to other uninformed and biased family co-parents (you), relatives, supporters, and the media. The good news is, you have many options that can improve this and your other team-building barriers over time. Doing so will raise your family’s nurturance level - win-win-win!

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